{"id":28030,"date":"2026-04-23T09:46:08","date_gmt":"2026-04-23T13:46:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/?post_type=story&#038;p=28030"},"modified":"2026-04-23T09:46:10","modified_gmt":"2026-04-23T13:46:10","slug":"detention-centers-migration-and-isolation-with-professors-asha-best-and-emma-shaw-crane","status":"publish","type":"story","link":"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/2026\/04\/23\/detention-centers-migration-and-isolation-with-professors-asha-best-and-emma-shaw-crane\/","title":{"rendered":"Detention Centers, Migration, and Isolation with Professors Asha Best and Emma Shaw Crane"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n<p><em>Above: The entrance to a detention center known as Alligator Alcatraz, inside Big Cypress National Preserve in Ochopee, Florida. Photo courtesy of wellesenterprises, iStock photo.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-we-have-to-become-more-imaginative-in-our-solutions-to-problems\">&#8216;We have to become more imaginative in our solutions to problems&#8217;<\/h2>\n\n\n<iframe allow=\"autoplay *; encrypted-media *; fullscreen *; clipboard-write\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"175\" style=\"border:0;width:100%;max-width:800px;overflow:hidden;background:transparent;\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/detention-centers-migration-and-isolation-with\/id1608025510?i=1000761992953\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"h-on-this-episode-of-challenge-change-clark-university-professor-asha-best-and-stanford-university-professor-emma-shaw-crane-discuss-detention-and-migration-in-the-united-states-and-why-the-government-chooses-remote-locations-for-detention-centers-we-can-understand-migrant-detention-alongside-things-like-prisons-and-jails-as-fundamentally-projects-that-are-about-breaking-relationships-and-removing-people-from-their-families-and-communities-as-a-form-of-punishment-and-as-a-form-of-torture-says-crane-the-placement-of-migrant-detention-centers-in-remote-places-is-a-part-of-this-project-of-breaking-relationships-best-believes-that-creative-thinking-about-how-to-repair-relationships-without-imprisoning-people-is-necessary-we-have-to-become-more-imaginative-in-our-solutions-to-problems-says-best-this-is-about-having-a-greater-political-imagination-for-how-we-think-about-problems-whether-or-not-you-think-that-s-a-problem-of-resource-distribution-or-a-problem-of-harm-challenge-change-is-produced-by-melissa-hanson-for-clark-university-find-other-episodes-wherever-you-listen-to-podcasts\">On this episode of <strong>Challenge. Change.<\/strong>, Clark University Professor Asha Best and Stanford University Professor Emma Shaw Crane discuss detention and migration in the United States and why the government chooses remote locations for detention centers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"h-on-this-episode-of-challenge-change-clark-university-professor-asha-best-and-stanford-university-professor-emma-shaw-crane-discuss-detention-and-migration-in-the-united-states-and-why-the-government-chooses-remote-locations-for-detention-centers-we-can-understand-migrant-detention-alongside-things-like-prisons-and-jails-as-fundamentally-projects-that-are-about-breaking-relationships-and-removing-people-from-their-families-and-communities-as-a-form-of-punishment-and-as-a-form-of-torture-says-crane-the-placement-of-migrant-detention-centers-in-remote-places-is-a-part-of-this-project-of-breaking-relationships-best-believes-that-creative-thinking-about-how-to-repair-relationships-without-imprisoning-people-is-necessary-we-have-to-become-more-imaginative-in-our-solutions-to-problems-says-best-this-is-about-having-a-greater-political-imagination-for-how-we-think-about-problems-whether-or-not-you-think-that-s-a-problem-of-resource-distribution-or-a-problem-of-harm-challenge-change-is-produced-by-melissa-hanson-for-clark-university-find-other-episodes-wherever-you-listen-to-podcasts\">&#8220;We can understand migrant detention alongside things like prisons and jails as fundamentally projects that are about breaking relationships and removing people from their families and communities as a form of punishment and as a form of torture,&#8221; says Crane. &#8220;The placement of migrant detention centers in remote places is a part of this project of breaking relationships.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<aside class=\"wp-block-group alignright boxout has-border-color has-blue-border-color has-blue-color has-white-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-ca98c26cbdf946bf402279e5b3007cd0 is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-12dd3699 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"border-width:4px\">\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-study-geography-at-clark\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/programs\/major\/geography-ba\/\">Study geography at Clark<\/a><\/h4>\n<\/aside>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"h-on-this-episode-of-challenge-change-clark-university-professor-asha-best-and-stanford-university-professor-emma-shaw-crane-discuss-detention-and-migration-in-the-united-states-and-why-the-government-chooses-remote-locations-for-detention-centers-we-can-understand-migrant-detention-alongside-things-like-prisons-and-jails-as-fundamentally-projects-that-are-about-breaking-relationships-and-removing-people-from-their-families-and-communities-as-a-form-of-punishment-and-as-a-form-of-torture-says-crane-the-placement-of-migrant-detention-centers-in-remote-places-is-a-part-of-this-project-of-breaking-relationships-best-believes-that-creative-thinking-about-how-to-repair-relationships-without-imprisoning-people-is-necessary-we-have-to-become-more-imaginative-in-our-solutions-to-problems-says-best-this-is-about-having-a-greater-political-imagination-for-how-we-think-about-problems-whether-or-not-you-think-that-s-a-problem-of-resource-distribution-or-a-problem-of-harm-challenge-change-is-produced-by-melissa-hanson-for-clark-university-find-other-episodes-wherever-you-listen-to-podcasts\">Best believes that creative thinking about how to repair relationships without imprisoning people is necessary. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"h-on-this-episode-of-challenge-change-clark-university-professor-asha-best-and-stanford-university-professor-emma-shaw-crane-discuss-detention-and-migration-in-the-united-states-and-why-the-government-chooses-remote-locations-for-detention-centers-we-can-understand-migrant-detention-alongside-things-like-prisons-and-jails-as-fundamentally-projects-that-are-about-breaking-relationships-and-removing-people-from-their-families-and-communities-as-a-form-of-punishment-and-as-a-form-of-torture-says-crane-the-placement-of-migrant-detention-centers-in-remote-places-is-a-part-of-this-project-of-breaking-relationships-best-believes-that-creative-thinking-about-how-to-repair-relationships-without-imprisoning-people-is-necessary-we-have-to-become-more-imaginative-in-our-solutions-to-problems-says-best-this-is-about-having-a-greater-political-imagination-for-how-we-think-about-problems-whether-or-not-you-think-that-s-a-problem-of-resource-distribution-or-a-problem-of-harm-challenge-change-is-produced-by-melissa-hanson-for-clark-university-find-other-episodes-wherever-you-listen-to-podcasts\">&#8220;We have to become more imaginative in our solutions to problems,&#8221; says Best. &#8220;This is about having a greater political imagination for how we think about problems, whether or not you think that&#8217;s a problem of resource distribution or a problem of harm.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"h-on-this-episode-of-challenge-change-clark-university-professor-asha-best-and-stanford-university-professor-emma-shaw-crane-discuss-detention-and-migration-in-the-united-states-and-why-the-government-chooses-remote-locations-for-detention-centers-we-can-understand-migrant-detention-alongside-things-like-prisons-and-jails-as-fundamentally-projects-that-are-about-breaking-relationships-and-removing-people-from-their-families-and-communities-as-a-form-of-punishment-and-as-a-form-of-torture-says-crane-the-placement-of-migrant-detention-centers-in-remote-places-is-a-part-of-this-project-of-breaking-relationships-best-believes-that-creative-thinking-about-how-to-repair-relationships-without-imprisoning-people-is-necessary-we-have-to-become-more-imaginative-in-our-solutions-to-problems-says-best-this-is-about-having-a-greater-political-imagination-for-how-we-think-about-problems-whether-or-not-you-think-that-s-a-problem-of-resource-distribution-or-a-problem-of-harm-challenge-change-is-produced-by-melissa-hanson-for-clark-university-find-other-episodes-wherever-you-listen-to-podcasts\"><strong>Challenge. Change.<\/strong> is produced by Melissa Hanson for Clark University. Listen and subscribe on\u202f<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4UuYAjq1d3Hq45cjwxoCNL\">Spotify<\/a>\u202for\u202f<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/challenge-change\/id1608025510\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>. Find other episodes wherever you listen to podcasts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-683x1024.avif\" alt=\"headshot of professor\" class=\"wp-image-28043\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-683x1024.avif 683w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-200x300.avif 200w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-768x1152.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-1024x1536.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-1365x2048.avif 1365w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-1200x1800.avif 1200w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Asha_Best_2026-9-scaled.avif 1707w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Asha Best<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"771\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-771x1024.avif\" alt=\"headshot of professor\" class=\"wp-image-28032\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-771x1024.avif 771w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-226x300.avif 226w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-768x1021.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-1156x1536.avif 1156w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-1541x2048.avif 1541w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-1200x1595.avif 1200w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Emma-2024-scaled.avif 1926w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 771px) 100vw, 771px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Emma Shaw Crane<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile has-white-color has-blue-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-c23db71416838c7de5907c95ac906451\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--10);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--10)\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Louis_Leonard_Aug_27_2025-15-1024x683.avif\" alt=\"man sitting at table talking into podcast microphone\" class=\"wp-image-25613 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Louis_Leonard_Aug_27_2025-15-1024x683.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Louis_Leonard_Aug_27_2025-15-300x200.avif 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Louis_Leonard_Aug_27_2025-15-768x512.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Louis_Leonard_Aug_27_2025-15-1536x1024.avif 1536w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Louis_Leonard_Aug_27_2025-15-2048x1365.avif 2048w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Louis_Leonard_Aug_27_2025-15-1200x800.avif 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\" id=\"h-today-s-pressing-issues-on-challenge-change\">Today&#8217;s pressing issues on Challenge. Change. <\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/2025\/12\/01\/does-ai-have-a-mind\/\">Does AI have a Mind? 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