{"id":26315,"date":"2025-12-10T09:42:37","date_gmt":"2025-12-10T14:42:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/?post_type=story&#038;p=26315"},"modified":"2026-01-21T10:34:58","modified_gmt":"2026-01-21T15:34:58","slug":"blue-man-group-creative-communities-and-making-your-idea-reality-with-matt-goldman-83-mba-84-and-laura-camien","status":"publish","type":"story","link":"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/2025\/12\/10\/blue-man-group-creative-communities-and-making-your-idea-reality-with-matt-goldman-83-mba-84-and-laura-camien\/","title":{"rendered":"Blue Man Group, creative communities, and making your idea reality with Matt Goldman &#8217;83, MBA &#8217;84, and Laura Camien"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n<iframe allow=\"autoplay *; encrypted-media *; fullscreen *; clipboard-write\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"175\" style=\"border:0;width:100%;max-width:800px;overflow:hidden;background:transparent;\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/blue-man-group-creative-communities-and-making-your\/id1608025510?i=1000739910513\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<p>When Matt Goldman&nbsp;&#8217;83, MBA &#8217;84, LHD &#8217;15, was a Clarkie, he had no idea that in a few years he&#8217;d co-found Blue Man Group with<strong> <\/strong>Chris Wink and Phil Stanton. Surrounding himself with good people, like Wink and Stanton, was one of the keys to taking an idea, making it real, and making it great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<aside class=\"wp-block-group alignright boxout has-blue-color has-light-teal-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-bc7ccc38da4d0146ce3aa5a15a5600bb is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-12dd3699 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-where-art-and-innovation-meet\">Where art and innovation meet<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/departments\/visual-and-performing-arts\/\">Study in the Visual and Performing Arts Department<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/programs\/major\/business-administration-bs\/\">Major in business administration<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/programs\/minor\/entrepreneurship-and-innovation\/\">Minor in entrepreneurship and innovation<\/a><\/p>\n<\/aside>\n\n\n\n<p>Goldman shared that lesson and more during a visit to campus in November with Laura Camien, former vice president of marketing and communications for Blue Man Group and co-founder of The Spark File. Goldman and Camien are co-authoring a book, tentatively titled &#8220;Making Ideas Real.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The book is largely about fostering the conditions where creativity and innovation in teams and individuals can thrive, and shifting those breakthroughs, those a-ha moments, epiphanies, whatever you wanna call them, from being random and occasional to intentional and frequent,&#8221; says Goldman.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-683x1024.avif\" alt=\"paint splattered on Freud statue\" class=\"wp-image-26325\" style=\"width:222px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-683x1024.avif 683w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-200x300.avif 200w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-768x1152.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-1024x1536.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-1365x2048.avif 1365w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-1200x1800.avif 1200w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-1-scaled.avif 1707w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photo by Natalie Hoang \u201925, MBA \u201926 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Both of us are people who could take an idea and bring it to fruition. But neither of us considered that to be a creative act, and through our own routes learned that it is potentially the greatest creative act there is,&#8221; says Camien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On this episode of <strong>Challenge. Change.<\/strong>, Goldman and Camien discuss building creative communities and share some of the innovative ideas that made Blue Man Group a success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Challenge. Change.<\/strong>&nbsp;is produced by Melissa Hanson for Clark University. Listen and subscribe on\u202f<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4UuYAjq1d3Hq45cjwxoCNL\">Spotify<\/a>\u202for\u202f<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/challenge-change\/id1608025510\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>. Find other episodes wherever you listen to podcasts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-74-1024x683.avif\" alt=\"three people sitting in armchairs on stage\" class=\"wp-image-26320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-74-1024x683.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-74-300x200.avif 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-74-768x512.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-74-1536x1024.avif 1536w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-74-2048x1365.avif 2048w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-74-1200x800.avif 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Laura Camien,  Matt Goldman&nbsp;&#8217;83, MBA &#8217;84, LHD &#8217;15, and School of Business Professor Paul Case during a Q&amp;A with students. Photo by Natalie Hoang \u201925, MBA \u201926 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-Luncheon-NH-00-15-1024x683.avif\" alt=\"student at table smiling\" class=\"wp-image-26322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-Luncheon-NH-00-15-1024x683.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-Luncheon-NH-00-15-300x200.avif 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-Luncheon-NH-00-15-768x512.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-Luncheon-NH-00-15-1536x1024.avif 1536w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-Luncheon-NH-00-15-2048x1365.avif 2048w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-Luncheon-NH-00-15-1200x800.avif 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Entrepreneurship students enjoyed a lunch with  Matt Goldman&nbsp;&#8217;83, MBA &#8217;84, LHD &#8217;15, and Laura Camien. Photo by Natalie Hoang \u201925, MBA \u201926 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-66-1024x683.avif\" alt=\"people sitting in seats\" class=\"wp-image-26327\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-66-1024x683.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-66-300x200.avif 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-66-768x512.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-66-1536x1024.avif 1536w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-66-2048x1365.avif 2048w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-66-1200x800.avif 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photo by Natalie Hoang \u201925, MBA \u201926 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-58-1024x683.avif\" alt=\"man speaking on stage\" class=\"wp-image-26328\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-58-1024x683.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-58-300x200.avif 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-58-768x512.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-58-1536x1024.avif 1536w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-58-2048x1365.avif 2048w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-58-1200x800.avif 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> Matt Goldman\u00a0&#8217;83, MBA &#8217;84, LHD &#8217;15, speaks to Clarkies in Tilton Hall. Photo by Natalie Hoang \u201925, MBA \u201926 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-28f84493 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-56-1024x683.avif\" alt=\"woman speaks on stage\" class=\"wp-image-26326\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-56-1024x683.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-56-300x200.avif 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-56-768x512.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-56-1536x1024.avif 1536w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-56-2048x1365.avif 2048w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-56-1200x800.avif 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Laura Camien. Photo by Natalie Hoang \u201925, MBA \u201926 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-77-1024x683.avif\" alt=\"student speaking into microphone\" class=\"wp-image-26323\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-77-1024x683.avif 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-77-300x200.avif 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-77-768x512.avif 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-77-1536x1024.avif 1536w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-77-2048x1365.avif 2048w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2025-Matt-Goldman-NH-00-77-1200x800.avif 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Students ask questions to Matt Goldman\u00a0&#8217;83, MBA &#8217;84, LHD &#8217;15, and Laura Camien. Photo by Natalie Hoang \u201925, MBA \u201926 <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile has-lighter-teal-color has-blue-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-fea276cdcc8843d987952a3eb8b1e57b\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--10);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--10)\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Andrew-Vietze-3-1024x768.jpeg\" alt=\"man padding canoe on lake surrounded by mountains\" class=\"wp-image-12341 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Andrew-Vietze-3-1024x768.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Andrew-Vietze-3-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Andrew-Vietze-3-768x576.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Andrew-Vietze-3-1200x900.jpeg 1200w, https:\/\/www.clarku.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/37\/Andrew-Vietze-3.jpeg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\" id=\"h-more-alumni-voices-on-challenge-change\">More alumni voices on Challenge. 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